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Ya know, it sure is GREAT that we can come over here and talk without worrying about being censored. I can't say enough good things about Dennis and (most of) the members of this board. It is SO much less PC than the "other" board.
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This is as good of a site as there is available! Post-on!
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Yes I certainly agree. This is the best forum site of any type that I know of. Lots of good members with a LOT of knowledge to share and a place where we can simply speak our peace and move on.
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I do wonder if some of our "locker room" banter might offend some of our female guests.
We certainly don't need moderators! Maybe we can clean up our act just a bit though. What Thinketh Thou?
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Mark, my wife doesn't drive more than a 48" cut lawn mower and she is a kindergarden teacher. When she is at home I can't keep up with her! It does take all kinds, and if someone desires a word or two has always provided here.
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Art, try it again. I not sure I understand what you are trying to say.
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I agree, I think Mark has a good point. Maybe we should keep the locker room talk confined to this section or make one for it. Probably really should not be talking like that in the tractor or related sections. Will do my best to be aware of that and keep it reasonable Mark. I thought about that after I replied to Lt. Censeless and went back and cleaned it up. I should not have let that idiot get me fired up like that. Does not help the board at all when new people see that.
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I have to agree with Mark. Speaking solely for myself I have posted a little too much tom foolery and innuendo lately. The one thing I love about this site is the ability to go back and edit or delete, which I have done for some of my posts this morning. I would note that no matter how the forum develops it is often how the receipient reads the message. As in what tone. anger and humor can easily be misstaken by others and I myself find that I sometimes have a certain meaning and I re-read it the next day and I can easily see how another person might have gotten a different meaning.
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I've always believed this is the best board not withstanding the specialty antique boards. There's decent technical content and room to pursue subjects in some detail (and Lord I'm given to detail). We don't seem to have a star system or a bunch of personalities. Most important we seem to be able to solve our attitude issues on our own.
Censorship always is capricious and arbitrary since it's done from only one perspective. I believe that the 'content we receive' is an individual responsibility and if we allow content to fall to official censors we fail to exercise our individual responsibility. If something offends or pushes a button we have to object, and the objections have to be received. We've been able to do that here and do it well.
Ironically it was a variation of a censorship issue that resulted in me halting my participation over there. I was on the receiving end of a national joke. I objected (indirectly, which was my own failing). I didn't ask for censorship but suggested that the board owner could show some leadership in indicating appropriate content. What I got was the owner claiming not to have said things that were said and fluffing off my objection 'just good clean fun' you know.
I suppose I've got to say that I am a native born U.S. citizen. I came to my adopted country after four years volunteer Nam era U.S. military service (Never there thankfully). The experience gives me some very conflicted and painful (mostly scar tissue now though) perspective on some subjects. Somebody without my baggage might have objected and gotten in the jokester's face about it. I couldn't and got no support for how I did object.
Over there, I objected to content gently but the objections weren't received and I was out of there. I always liked this place better so there wasn't really any 'never looking back.' Now years later they've got formal censors over there it seems, but that's not what I asked for. My and the current experiences there aren't connected, but 'Go figure.'
Best to solve problems and censorship isn't usually a solution. Content is our responsibility and we seem to exercise it very well. We do real well with tractor content too. Dennis plays his ownership role very well as well as the technical role.
Some of this I hope is a commentary on how we might continue to avoid content problems, or at least that's my rationalization for length of this. We all have our baggage and our buttons, and we can't know what other people's are interacting through screens and keyboards as we do. Particular content may offend or victimize a particular person. I believe an offended person doesn't have a right to censorship but they do have a right to object and for the objection to be heard, but maybe not remedied. That's the way families and communities manage these things. Maybe that's what we're working on.
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Greetings all
What is this other board you all are talking about? Some one send me a link or email so I can see for myself.
Censorship stinks. We are unfortunately going to a place where individuals are not appreciated unless they are not individuals. All I can do is be my self and fight like Hell to keep our God given Rights intact.
Just my Humble Opinion. 
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